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Don't be shy. Come on in.

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I know you get the call from Human
Resources.

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Oh, yeah.

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It's okay. You're not in trouble. Just
the opposite, in fact.

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Oh. Yeah.

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We're going to be doing a special
project. But here, have a seat.

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Okay.

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So, as you know, Human Resources, we're
in charge of equal opportunity.

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Hypothetically, we're in charge for the
whole equal work for equal pay type

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thing, where women just...

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by what their performance might be like,
but that's regardless.

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What we're going to be doing next week
is an entire week of seminars

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on sexual harassment.

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Oh, wow.

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That's a good thing. Have you had
problems?

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Actually, yeah.

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Oh, you should have come to me.

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But it's okay, because we are totally
going to deal with that. That's not

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something... that, you know, you're a
young intern, you know, you just

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college, here you are, first month at
the company, and, you know, we want to

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make a good impression.

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So, you, being young, female, and new to
the company, you might be the

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perfect opportunity to use as, like, our
poster girl for sexual harassment.

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Oh, okay.

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And I can tell you, you know,
participating in the company's extra

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this is a really great way to get
noticed.

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Oh, yeah, I mean...

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That sounds good to me. You know, the
internship program is supposed to be a

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year, but it doesn't have to be.

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So you're going to help me educate
everyone in the company about sexual

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harassment. Oh, that's awesome. I mean,
I couldn't thank you.

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No problem. Now, one of the first
things, and it's related, is what's

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appropriate dress.

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for the workplace, which is
inappropriate dress for the workplace.

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So while you guys stand up, let's take a
look at what you're wearing, because

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remember, you're supposed to be the
poster girl. Right.

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So we want to make sure that you're
impeccable.

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Okay.

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So the skirt, it's not supposed to be
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the knee.

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Okay. Oh.

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Well, that's a little short.

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A little short.

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I don't think you'd get written up for
it. I mean, we're a little loose about

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the dress policy, but we'll talk about
that because you're, you know, there's

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excuse for anyone being inappropriate,
but you're kind of inviting the type of

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attention and we don't want to have to
fire the whole now staff, right? Yeah.

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So let's look at this top. It cinches
in, that's fine.

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Now the top is perfect.

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So let's see what would happen if like
the top wasn't perfect.

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oh okay yeah all right like for example
what if we had one last button done

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what do you think is that appropriate or
inappropriate i think

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it's appropriate yeah it's still
appropriate because it's more or less

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closed okay now we go this far

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and we like flip it open a bit

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what do you think appropriate or
inappropriate

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I think it's like borderline.

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It's kind of borderline.

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Okay. So what if we really sit there and
we go past it?

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I feel like that's definitely going to
be inappropriate.

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We don't have to do that button.

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Oh. Well, let me ask you a question.

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Do you think that we can show people
what is wrong or what's the right thing

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do if they don't know what's wrong?
You're going to have to demonstrate

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Mm -hmm. Okay, so maybe, you know, it's
not a big deal under this button. It's

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just us in here. That's why it's a
closed meeting, and absolutely no one

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you're even here.

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Now, what do you think?

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Appropriate or inappropriate?

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I definitely think that inappropriate is
drawing some lies.

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Okay, you're probably right. That's
probably inappropriate.

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Now, you leave it like that because you
shouldn't get to know what it feels like

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because what if you're dressed
inappropriately and you're just not

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Again, that would make us look bad
because you're supposed to be our poster

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girl.

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Now, we were talking about the skirt
being short.

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The real risk, obviously, is not how
much of your knee they see.

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It's what's underneath the skirt, right?

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So, are you wearing underwear?

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Yeah. Okay.

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Now, that's the thing is can I see?

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Anything. So go ahead and have a seat
there.

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Okay. Good. Now cross and uncross your
legs.

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Okay, cross.

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Good. So, what if the skirt was a little
shorter?

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Go ahead and cross and uncross your
legs.

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Okay, other one.

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All right.

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Now, what if the skirt was even shorter?

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Now cross and uncross.

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And cross again.

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Alright, it's kind of hard to tell
because there's a lot of fabric. So go

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and stand up.

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So, you know, there's a lot of fabric.
So let's say you weren't wearing...

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We have to know if we're going to be
exposed with the proper length for a

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right? Maybe we could adjust the length
of the skirt. Maybe they could be

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shorter and be okay because, you know,
fashion.

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Wouldn't you like to have more freedom
in what you wear?

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Right, without having to worry about
unwanted attention?

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Yeah. All right, so let's go ahead and
do this then.

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Don't worry. It's all right. It's just
you and I.

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There you go. You step right out. There
you go.

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Wow, you did that so easy.

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Go ahead, have a seat again.

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Okay. So let's go ahead and get this
like it's a short, right? Okay.

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So could have skirted that short. Be
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Cross.

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Uncross.

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Okay, cross the other side.

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All right, other way.

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Cross.

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Good. All right, now go ahead and stand
up.

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Let's say, for argument's sake, if you
were standing and your skirt was...

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What do you think about that length?

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I think it's inappropriate.

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Well, let's see. You know what we'll do?

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I'd like you to go ahead with, you know,
you're back to me. Turn around and pick

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up your underwear and we'll see if
you're, like, very exposed.

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And don't do it quickly because, you
know, it's like maybe you dropped a pile

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papers.

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All right, so that script might be a
little too short.

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Yeah. Okay, you go ahead and have a
seat. But leave it like that so you get

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to.

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All right, so you're doing great.

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So we can talk about personal space.

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This, you would say, is?

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I would say it's okay,

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I guess. What is it that makes you feel
like it's not okay?

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But that's the dress. We're talking
about the space between us. I think this

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a good space.

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Okay.

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It's okay.

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Okay. All right. Because it's arm's
reach.

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That's true.

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It might be just a tad bit close. Okay.
So what about that?

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Yeah, it's a very personal space. So
what makes it so personal? Because, you

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know, we're actually, my whole leg
length,

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Yeah. For me, personally, it's a little
too close. Like, it's too much. Too

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close to the crotch.

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Do you find your eyes drawn to the male
crotches in the office?

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No. No.

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Are you sure?

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I'm not saying any of the men have
complained about you, but have your eyes

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lingering?

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It's okay. You know, sometimes a little
glance in here is natural.

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So, you know, it's hard to get in
trouble for a look because, I mean,

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could say, hey, they were looking at me
like this. And, I mean, like, how would

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you feel if a bunch of men in the office
were like, she's constantly, you know,

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staring at my crotch region?

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Right, yeah.

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Imagine if you got fired for sexual
harassment.

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Especially, oh my gosh, if you were the
poster girl, they'd be on your permanent

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record.

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I mean, we're not allowed to tell other
companies you got fired, but, you know,

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people do talk.

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I'd hate to see a girl your age just
shut out of the corporate world or such

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you know, misunderstanding.

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Yeah, I mean, I don't do that.

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Okay. What about touching? Do you ever
touch the men?

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No. No.

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So you wouldn't be talking and joking
and, for example, like they tell a joke

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and you're like, oh, that's so funny,
nothing like that?

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Well, that's not a bad policy, but
sometimes it's camaraderie, right? If

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someone's like, hey, good job, would you
feel... Yeah, I mean, like, maybe...

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Right, so you could be like, hey, it's a
good job.

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Yeah.

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It's okay, that's fine.

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So let's talk about maybe how far up the
leg is inappropriate.

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Okay. Because you have to know for
yourself, like, hey... I mean, right

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I was like, you know what, you're doing
great.

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Yeah, I don't see anything.

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Okay. So, you know, I don't want to
invade your space too much, so how about

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practice on me instead?

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Okay, you know, you're wearing a very
short skirt, which is very

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but we'll talk about that later.

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So instead of me thinking how far up the
leg is appropriate, you will.

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Right? Because, I mean, I want to
respect your space, even though we're

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our human resources training, which
gives us a little bit of leeway.

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All right? Okay.

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So I'm going to put your hand in
different places up my leg, and we'll

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whether it's appropriate or
inappropriate.

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Okay. Okay? Yeah.

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All right, so.

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What do you think?

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I mean, I guess that's appropriate.

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Okay.

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Okay, so that's okay. It's a pat because
this is not the same as that. What

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about here?

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Yeah, I think that might be a little
inappropriate.

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What if they're just asking you to help
find their keys?

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What if they need a key to the file
cabinet?

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That's true.

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Okay.

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Yeah, I mean, I guess it's appropriate.

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Nice. Okay.

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So what about here?

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Well, yeah.

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So the pack's no good? Yeah. What about
that?

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Yeah, I think that's a little
inappropriate.

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Yeah. Right.

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It is probably pushing it.

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Yeah. What? You look like you're a
little concerned.

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Is there something?

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Yeah, I just think it's a little
inappropriate.

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Now, do you suspect that I have an
erection right now?

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Be honest now.

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Yes. Now, that's an interesting point
because it's inappropriate for a man to

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have an erection at work.

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I mean, I would say so.

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Okay, but you're not sure if I have one
or not because of the way I'm sitting

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and the way the pants are, right?

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Well, let's go ahead and let's check
because you need to be able to identify

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that because if it's inappropriate, then
you need to know.

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Yeah, I would say yes.

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Okay, but you can't really be sure,
right?

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Yeah, I guess so.

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Let's see.

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Kind of like revealing what's behind the
door, right?

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Yeah, I don't think that's right.

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So you feel comfortable maybe accusing a
man of inappropriate behavior without

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being sure?

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That's worrisome.

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So it makes sense for you to be sure
that this is what you think is going on,

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doesn't it?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, you're right. I mean, I do have
almost a full erection. Yes.

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So, now you can tell the difference.

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Yeah.

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Now, what if you're asked to do this?

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I would feel like that would be very,
very inappropriate.

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Okay. So, what makes it inappropriate?

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My hand on another person's, like, body
and penis.

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Right. So, it's inappropriate if it's
sexual.

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Um, yeah.

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So, I mean, if it's sexual, then, you
know, you'd have to be sure because the

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person would have to be very aroused.

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Yeah.

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Okay. Well, why don't we go ahead and
just finish this and then see if you

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it was inappropriate after the fact.

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Um, yeah. We want you to be sure.

241
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Yeah. Okay.

242
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Yeah. Great.

243
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Let me get something out of my desk.

244
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There you go. Take that.

245
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Put some of that in your hand.

246
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Now, does that feel like, I mean, that
could just be lotion, right?

247
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Yeah. I mean.

248
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Okay. So go ahead and put it on.

249
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Yeah, I would say this is like

250
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super inappropriate.

251
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Okay.

252
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Well, I think, to be honest, I think
you're right.

253
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But I'm actually very distracted now,
and it's kind of hard to focus because

254
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actually aroused now.

255
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So, gosh, if we wait for it to go away,
you might have to get someone else to

256
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fill your place.

257
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So maybe we could just help me get rid
of this.

258
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I don't know.

259
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I understand, but, I mean, you're kind
of responsible for it. So if you took

260
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care of it, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah,
for sure. I don't see why that's. like

261
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issue okay yeah great so let's go ahead
and just get this taken out of the way

262
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you know just like a problem that needs
to be solved um oh yeah okay

263
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now

264
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for the sake of time you want to put two
hands into it right you don't use one

265
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hand on the keyboard um right so yeah
just go ahead and use

266
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Now, since you're already there, don't
be afraid to touch the balls, too,

267
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I mean, you're already, it's already
involved. There's no reason to hesitate.

268
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Yeah, there we are.

269
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It's okay. You're doing fine.

270
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We're not doing anything wrong.

271
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I mean, after all, I'm the human
resources director.

272
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So, I mean, I would know what you're
doing right this moment in this

273
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circumstance was wrong, right?

274
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Yeah. Yeah.

275
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Definitely.

276
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What you're doing is perfectly fine.

277
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And you want to do your best at this so
it doesn't take that long because we

278
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have other stuff to cover.

279
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Oh. And I wouldn't want you to think
you're trying to like work me up to want

280
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do more than that. Are you?

281
00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,020
No. No, not at all. So you're trying to
like relieve the sexual tension, not

282
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increase it. Right.

283
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Right? Yeah.

284
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Because that would be bad.

285
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There you go. Now, it won't take too
long doing it like that. Okay.

286
00:17:22,569 --> 00:17:25,690
And it's important, obviously, you don't
tell any other co -workers about this

287
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because then the other men in the office
will expect it.

288
00:17:29,670 --> 00:17:32,370
Yeah, no. You'll have to have a big
seminar over it.

289
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Yeah, definitely. I won't say anything.

290
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I do not want you being sexually
harassed out there.

291
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I'll be protecting you.

292
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You're doing great.

293
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Okay.

294
00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:34,570
So is this, like, going to help me with,
like, with my

295
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job, like, possibly? Oh, yeah, I mean...

296
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You know, me knowing you the way I do
means I'm probably going to take your

297
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in any kind of sexual harassment issues
that come up.

298
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I know you probably had some problems,
and you've just been afraid to say

299
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anything because you're an intern.

300
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You don't have to worry about that.

301
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I don't want to lose my job or anything.
Oh, yeah, no, I've got you covered.

302
00:18:56,110 --> 00:18:59,610
And not only that, who would ever have
the balls to sexually harass the girl

303
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that's supposed to be, like, the poster
girl for sexual harassment for the

304
00:19:02,530 --> 00:19:04,890
company? Right, right, yeah, that makes
sense.

305
00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:38,780
Why don't you sit with your legs a
little bit crossed, but kind of

306
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inappropriately, and see if that kind of
invites the wrong attention.

307
00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,380
Just take this leg, just like this.

308
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,800
Okay. Right? Because that's nothing
really wrong with that. Yeah, just like

309
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:49,800
that.

310
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That's it. Don't stop that now.

311
00:20:13,650 --> 00:20:15,490
Keep going just like that. Okay.

312
00:20:18,690 --> 00:20:22,430
If you could squeeze the balls just a
little bit, then I... Yeah. Oh!

313
00:20:22,890 --> 00:20:23,890
Oh!

314
00:20:24,170 --> 00:20:25,170
Oh!

315
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:27,810
Oh!

316
00:20:28,190 --> 00:20:29,190
Oh! Oh!

317
00:20:30,370 --> 00:20:33,030
Okay, now it's that sensitive, that
sensitive. Okay.

318
00:20:34,250 --> 00:20:35,630
Um... Yeah.

319
00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:37,710
Oh, we have a bit of an issue.

320
00:20:38,010 --> 00:20:39,010
Yeah.

321
00:20:39,360 --> 00:20:42,040
Okay. You know what? That is absolutely
the best. Go ahead and grab your

322
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,120
panties. Okay.

323
00:20:44,940 --> 00:20:46,120
There we go.

324
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There you are.

325
00:20:51,140 --> 00:20:52,140
Yeah.

326
00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:54,380
Actually, here you go.

327
00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:57,500
I have another appointment, actually, so
you can go ahead.

328
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,940
You're going to go to the ladies' room,
get cleaned up, and get back to work.

329
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:05,740
And remember, we don't want you getting
unwanted attention.

330
00:21:06,730 --> 00:21:09,550
So you don't want to tell anybody about
the sexual harassment seminars.

331
00:21:09,990 --> 00:21:10,990
Mm -hmm. Okay?

332
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:14,010
Because then all of a sudden everyone's
on their best behavior with you, and

333
00:21:14,010 --> 00:21:16,370
then that doesn't give you a good
indication of who needs counseling.

334
00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:19,310
Right. Right? Right. That makes sense,
right? Yeah.

335
00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:25,070
But tomorrow, wear something that you
think is extremely inappropriate.

336
00:21:25,650 --> 00:21:29,470
The best idea is for you to wear
something that you think is completely

337
00:21:29,470 --> 00:21:30,470
inappropriate.

338
00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:34,250
But that still doesn't mean guys should
get to, the male employees should say

339
00:21:34,250 --> 00:21:37,310
inappropriate things or the women should
criticize you. Yeah. So you make a

340
00:21:37,310 --> 00:21:39,230
mental list and I'll be watching to see
who acts inappropriate.

341
00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:40,810
Mm -hmm. Yeah. All right.

342
00:21:41,030 --> 00:21:42,490
Good job. You're my girl.

343
00:21:42,850 --> 00:21:44,550
Um. Actually, how about your other hand?

344
00:21:44,790 --> 00:21:46,550
Um, okay. There we go. All right.

345
00:21:47,010 --> 00:21:49,410
Well, come on. Okay. Good. Good.

346
00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:53,070
Good. Very good. Okay. Good work today.
Yep. Come on in.

347
00:21:53,310 --> 00:21:55,490
Okay. All right. Hold on now. Take a
look.

348
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:59,030
Um. All right. So.

349
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,760
Do you feel like you were getting...
Yeah, I definitely feel like I've been

350
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,300
getting looked at more today. Like the
women... In ways that are inappropriate.

351
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,420
Yeah. Well, let's do the skirt check
here.

352
00:22:15,020 --> 00:22:16,100
Turn around and pick that up.

353
00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:24,140
Okay, yeah. So even the length on that
is appropriate. I don't think it's

354
00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:26,460
because of the length. I think it's
because of the way it flares out.

355
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,940
But I do see like... This kind of
exposes.

356
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,680
Yeah. But not really. I mean, they're
out.

357
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,900
Good. So this is a good example.

358
00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:43,100
But, you know, you still shouldn't have
men saying things to you because they

359
00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:44,079
should come to me.

360
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:50,420
Right. You know, this is very upsetting,
but not a single man in the office came

361
00:22:50,420 --> 00:22:52,040
up and made a complaint.

362
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,860
Oh. Yeah.

363
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,220
All the women did. Yeah. But not a
single man here.

364
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,520
Yeah. So.

365
00:22:59,690 --> 00:23:06,570
They obviously have a lot to learn about
sexual harassment and what it means

366
00:23:06,570 --> 00:23:07,910
and what's appropriate and
inappropriate.

367
00:23:08,610 --> 00:23:09,610
All right.

368
00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:16,350
So what I'd like you to do is go ahead
and have a seat.

369
00:23:17,030 --> 00:23:18,510
Okay. Okay.

370
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:23,770
All right. So you remember how you had
to touch my leg to see if it was

371
00:23:23,770 --> 00:23:26,470
inappropriate? Mm -hmm. All right. Now
that we're more comfortable together,

372
00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:28,330
we're going to run the same test on you.

373
00:23:28,780 --> 00:23:32,400
Okay. Okay. So I'm going to be putting
my hand up your legs.

374
00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:33,860
Oh, wow.

375
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,880
Okay.

376
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,140
Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

377
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,560
Yeah. Okay.

378
00:23:43,060 --> 00:23:45,480
So? I think, yeah.

379
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:46,720
Okay.

380
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,040
Seems normal.

381
00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:53,480
Yeah, that seems a little personal.

382
00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:57,560
Well, what if the skirt, now it's not up
the skirt, how's that?

383
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,160
Yeah, yeah.

384
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,080
So, but now we're saying this touch is
okay and that's not. That's kind of a

385
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,060
fine line, right? If you touch my leg,
you touch my leg in a way that I'm like,

386
00:24:08,140 --> 00:24:12,020
now you're kind of losing ground. But
let's just see.

387
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,380
Yeah, I definitely think that that is
much.

388
00:24:22,180 --> 00:24:27,300
Okay, so what about... Yeah, that's a...

389
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,960
A hundred percent inappropriate.

390
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,760
Now let me ask you, though, what if, you
know, it's funny because there's that

391
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,020
what's welcome to not. Like, there's
people you like to hug and people you

392
00:24:38,020 --> 00:24:38,859
like to hug.

393
00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:42,180
But the rules have to be the same for
everybody. So what if you were

394
00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:45,240
to this type of touch in a different
way?

395
00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:49,080
We have to make sure that no matter how
you're being touched, you perceive it

396
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,859
the same way.

397
00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:53,440
Doesn't that make sense? Like, the way
your touch shouldn't matter, it should

398
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,440
just be the touch itself.

399
00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:01,720
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So keeping that in
mind, then probably we'll just do this

400
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:08,540
we'll see how you, you know, like at the
end, like, okay, so the touch was

401
00:25:08,540 --> 00:25:09,540
not.

402
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,600
Yeah.

403
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:14,760
Yeah, I guess so.

404
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:19,500
Okay.

405
00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:21,680
And then if we do a little more.

406
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:23,420
Oh, wow.

407
00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:25,020
Now.

408
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,820
He then sends a mixed signal, right?

409
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,520
It's okay. I am going to help you to
really understand.

410
00:25:33,940 --> 00:25:34,940
Okay.

411
00:25:39,020 --> 00:25:40,020
Um,

412
00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:44,640
yeah.

413
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,140
I think it's much. I mean, um, wow.

414
00:26:05,370 --> 00:26:08,670
So now there's a certain amount of
responsiveness happening here too.

415
00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:13,070
I mean, I really, really think this is
not okay.

416
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,240
Yeah, I think if I saw someone doing
this like it wouldn't definitely not be

417
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,520
good Even though

418
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:47,880
that

419
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,800
feels good and all I don't I don't think
it's appropriate for work

420
00:27:07,340 --> 00:27:12,800
What if two people were caught doing
this in a private part of the office?

421
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,940
it be sexual harassment or would it just
be something of, like, inappropriate

422
00:27:16,940 --> 00:27:19,980
behavior? How would we categorize that,
do you think?

423
00:27:20,260 --> 00:27:24,520
I think it would be definitely
inappropriate behavior. But it's

424
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,160
does that fall in the sexual harassment
category?

425
00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:33,420
I mean, no. Why don't you take a few
minutes to keep doing this and think, is

426
00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:36,580
it inappropriate in a work sense?

427
00:27:37,230 --> 00:27:40,470
Or is it actually sexual harassment?
Because sexual harassment is all we're

428
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:43,310
really concerned about right now.

429
00:27:43,570 --> 00:27:44,570
Right?

430
00:27:44,890 --> 00:27:46,490
Yeah. Yeah.

431
00:27:51,610 --> 00:27:52,190
I

432
00:27:52,190 --> 00:28:01,430
think

433
00:28:01,430 --> 00:28:05,230
if two people were consensually having
sex, then I think...

434
00:28:05,470 --> 00:28:10,250
or doing this, but it's not work, so...
Take your time.

435
00:28:12,010 --> 00:28:13,710
Don't jump to any conclusions.

436
00:28:18,010 --> 00:28:24,970
Yeah, I just, I really don't think,
like, I'm not sure about... It's okay,

437
00:28:25,110 --> 00:28:28,210
just take another couple minutes and
process it.

438
00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:31,610
I don't like people to rush to judgment
on things.

439
00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:33,890
I mean...

440
00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:39,540
Imagine if, like, I don't know, someone
had over a dozen complaints about how

441
00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:43,580
they were dressed today by the women in
the office, and I rushed to judgment.

442
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,080
Well, that intern, hypothetically, if it
was an intern, would be fired.

443
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,100
Right. Yeah.

444
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:52,200
And I'd have trouble protecting them.

445
00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:56,720
If I knew that they were the type to
rush to judgment as well.

446
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Mm -hmm.

447
00:28:58,300 --> 00:28:59,300
So...

448
00:29:04,170 --> 00:29:08,550
I just, I don't know. I don't know. I
don't know how this is right.

449
00:31:12,460 --> 00:31:13,460
Are you just looking at that?

450
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,600
Premonization is consensual. Two people
doing something consensual that they're

451
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,600
not supposed to.

452
00:31:45,660 --> 00:31:47,920
Sexual harassment, there's a lack of
consent.

453
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:49,760
So which one would that have been?

454
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,040
I guess the second.

455
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:55,500
Premonization? Yeah.

456
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,700
Okay. That's what I think, too. Yeah.
All right, great.

457
00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:03,520
You know what else I was thinking? This
skirt, it's not so much the length, it's

458
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640
the flare -out. So that's a gray area,
but the top is definitely inappropriate.

459
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,920
Yeah. You shouldn't wear inappropriate
stuff to work. So go ahead and take the

460
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,829
shirt off.

461
00:32:10,830 --> 00:32:11,830
Oh, um,

462
00:32:13,650 --> 00:32:14,650
okay.

463
00:32:15,250 --> 00:32:19,210
Um, you told me to wear this, so.

464
00:32:19,410 --> 00:32:21,010
I told you to wear something that was
inappropriate.

465
00:32:22,030 --> 00:32:23,550
This is what you picked.

466
00:32:23,790 --> 00:32:24,790
Who picked this shirt?

467
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:26,870
Um, me.

468
00:32:27,230 --> 00:32:28,630
Right. Who owns this shirt?

469
00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:29,930
Me.

470
00:32:30,170 --> 00:32:32,530
Okay. Are you wearing something
inappropriate to work?

471
00:32:33,130 --> 00:32:35,630
Yes. So you shouldn't be wearing it.

472
00:32:36,150 --> 00:32:37,990
Right. It was. Yeah.

473
00:32:38,650 --> 00:32:39,589
I mean, yeah.

474
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:41,610
You shouldn't wear something
inappropriate to work.

475
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,230
If you take it off, then you're not
wearing it. Right. You're so right about

476
00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:46,230
that. Yes.

477
00:32:46,850 --> 00:32:47,850
Okay.

478
00:32:51,570 --> 00:32:58,410
I feel like I'm really

479
00:32:58,410 --> 00:33:00,350
going to get looked at now.

480
00:33:00,550 --> 00:33:04,270
Oh, it's okay. We'll figure something
out before you leave. Plus, it's the end

481
00:33:04,270 --> 00:33:07,650
of the day, so there won't really be
anyone here when you're out. You know.

482
00:33:08,260 --> 00:33:09,440
We'll work it out.

483
00:33:10,340 --> 00:33:14,600
There we go. All right. I don't want you
to agitate the nipples and make them

484
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,660
hard like that because now you have hard
nipples.

485
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,560
Which is a state of arousal, which is
sending out certain types of signals,

486
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:21,680
right?

487
00:33:21,940 --> 00:33:22,940
Okay.

488
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:29,560
So now once again, we have a similar
problem to yesterday.

489
00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:32,140
Do you understand?

490
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:34,520
Yeah.

491
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,220
Okay. So now you've created a situation.

492
00:33:38,010 --> 00:33:41,510
If you create a situation, you should be
the one to resolve it, right?

493
00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:49,930
Yes. All right. So, and this is only
going to happen when we're practicing

494
00:33:50,010 --> 00:33:54,470
because after this, you're going to have
a perfect idea of how not to create a

495
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:56,810
sexually tense or hostile environment.

496
00:33:57,270 --> 00:34:01,410
But right now, you are. You are creating
a sexually hostile environment.

497
00:34:01,710 --> 00:34:06,030
Okay, so I'm the problem here. Right.
Okay. So, you created a problem.

498
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:07,780
Could you put the shirt back on?

499
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,440
You know, you can't put the genie back
in the bottle.

500
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,219
So the problem is I have now, I have
work to do, but I have an incredibly

501
00:34:16,219 --> 00:34:18,320
uncomfortable erection. Oh, wow.

502
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760
Okay. Right.

503
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,420
So what did we do last time?

504
00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:24,900
Yes.

505
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:31,040
However, I don't have lube with me. Oh.
And dry hands can cause pain.

506
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,820
So this time you're just going to use
your mouth.

507
00:34:34,409 --> 00:34:35,969
To alleviate the situation.

508
00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:38,389
Oh, okay.

509
00:34:39,409 --> 00:34:40,409
Yeah, no.

510
00:34:40,590 --> 00:34:43,790
No, no. That's not okay. I don't agree
with that.

511
00:34:44,190 --> 00:34:45,550
Let's walk through this, okay?

512
00:34:46,050 --> 00:34:50,330
All right. Sorry. This is, in case
you're wondering, I always record these

513
00:34:50,330 --> 00:34:54,969
interviews, okay? To make sure that, you
know, there's a record of everything.

514
00:34:55,310 --> 00:35:02,150
Okay? All right. So, if you create a
situation, you should

515
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:03,150
resolve it.

516
00:35:03,590 --> 00:35:04,730
Yes. Right.

517
00:35:05,410 --> 00:35:12,390
So, it is your responsibility to do what
is required to remedy the

518
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:13,970
situation. Yeah.

519
00:35:14,610 --> 00:35:17,330
Okay. What is the situation here?

520
00:35:17,950 --> 00:35:19,670
I have caused the problem.

521
00:35:20,010 --> 00:35:21,010
And the problem is?

522
00:35:21,110 --> 00:35:22,350
Your erection.

523
00:35:22,690 --> 00:35:23,690
Right.

524
00:35:23,890 --> 00:35:26,970
What is the solution that we learned the
other day to that?

525
00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:29,070
I do something.

526
00:35:29,310 --> 00:35:31,530
Things to relieve your situation.

527
00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:33,130
That is outstanding.

528
00:35:33,550 --> 00:35:38,770
You are, I'm really proud of you. Yeah.
Yeah, you're going to be, well, you're

529
00:35:38,770 --> 00:35:40,890
going to be the top of the company with
the way you're going to go ahead and

530
00:35:40,890 --> 00:35:44,450
just put a new face on sexual harassment
here. Yeah. All right, great. Why don't

531
00:35:44,450 --> 00:35:48,830
you go ahead and you get on your knees.
I'm going to take these off and get a

532
00:35:48,830 --> 00:35:49,830
nice comfortable seat.

533
00:35:50,010 --> 00:35:54,110
And then we'll go ahead and we'll work
together to resolve this issue.

534
00:35:56,620 --> 00:36:02,380
I'm okay. I mean, I created the
situation, so I should take care of it.

535
00:37:34,170 --> 00:37:38,590
Now, you know, you don't have to worry
about taking care of this situation with

536
00:37:38,590 --> 00:37:41,790
anyone else who works here, right?
Especially after we do the seminar.

537
00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:43,970
Yeah. However, Mr.

538
00:37:44,990 --> 00:37:49,370
Johansson, the CEO, you're probably
going to start doing some work for him.

539
00:37:49,970 --> 00:37:54,370
So if you happen to, if you make a
mistake and you create a situation like

540
00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:56,370
you'll have to take care of it.

541
00:37:56,830 --> 00:37:57,830
Okay.

542
00:37:59,050 --> 00:38:02,730
That just makes sense. I mean, he's the
boss. He sets all the policies. Uh -huh.

543
00:38:02,830 --> 00:38:08,970
So if you create a situation like this
with a boss, our boss, then you have to

544
00:38:08,970 --> 00:38:09,928
take care of it.

545
00:38:09,930 --> 00:38:13,330
Yeah. I mean, that makes complete sense.

546
00:38:13,730 --> 00:38:14,730
Okay. Yeah.

547
00:38:17,470 --> 00:38:17,910
So

548
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:24,890
if you

549
00:38:24,890 --> 00:38:27,570
have to do this with a boss, what if
he's...

550
00:38:27,850 --> 00:38:29,670
isn't impressed with your performance.

551
00:38:32,010 --> 00:38:35,270
You created a situation and did a bad
job of resolving it.

552
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:39,110
So let's go ahead and practice. I want
you to really, really throw some effort

553
00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:40,110
into this.

554
00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:43,070
There we go.

555
00:39:21,130 --> 00:39:23,350
My thought is, is that good?

556
00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:25,870
It's definitely an improvement over how
you started.

557
00:39:58,670 --> 00:40:01,290
I like that you're trying to maintain
eye contact with me because in the

558
00:40:01,290 --> 00:40:03,810
business world, people don't respect you
if you don't maintain eye contact.

559
00:40:05,110 --> 00:40:06,110
Yeah.

560
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,000
And just show commitment to resolving
this issue.

561
00:41:14,180 --> 00:41:16,600
Just go down.

562
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,640
More, more, more.

563
00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:20,940
Is that honestly the best you can do?

564
00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:26,600
Okay. All right. I mean, we set a
watermark, so to speak, you know.

565
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:59,220
I mean you're doing better than other
people in your situation right

566
00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:24,190
You're actually doing a pretty decent
job if you give it some real enthusiasm

567
00:42:24,190 --> 00:42:25,129
and you're going to finish.

568
00:42:25,130 --> 00:42:27,370
But you're going to want to catch it all
in your mouth.

569
00:42:27,650 --> 00:42:28,770
Oh, what? No.

570
00:42:28,990 --> 00:42:30,890
No, no, no, no, no. I don't do that.

571
00:42:31,450 --> 00:42:35,570
Okay. Here's the problem, though. If you
don't catch it all in your mouth, it's

572
00:42:35,570 --> 00:42:38,770
going to make a mess, which means you're
going to be creating another problem.

573
00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:43,550
Right, yeah. You don't solve a problem
by creating a problem, but if it all

574
00:42:43,550 --> 00:42:45,910
down your throat, no problem.

575
00:42:46,310 --> 00:42:47,310
You're right.

576
00:42:48,250 --> 00:42:49,250
Okay.

577
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:13,280
Don't stop till it's solved.

578
00:43:20,620 --> 00:43:21,780
That's it.

579
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Okay.

580
00:43:27,340 --> 00:43:28,340
That's it.

581
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:35,800
There you go.

582
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,740
Don't get that in your hands. You've got
to pick stuff up.

583
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:49,420
You're right.

584
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:51,320
Look at me. Oh, my gosh.

585
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:53,380
That was a lot.

586
00:43:55,240 --> 00:43:57,840
You can make a mess.

587
00:43:58,940 --> 00:43:59,940
You made a mess.

588
00:44:01,380 --> 00:44:04,700
All right, so you resolve one problem by
creating another one. It's all right,

589
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:06,640
though. You know what? I'm going to be
like a mentor for you.

590
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,840
Yeah. Okay?

591
00:44:08,020 --> 00:44:09,240
So I'm a...

592
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,280
I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to
show you pictures of what you're going

593
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,540
wear tomorrow on my computer.

594
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:21,420
And just wear that outfit and that'll be
like the final step for the sexual

595
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:22,420
harassment training.

596
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,080
Okay? Okay. Yep.

597
00:44:24,460 --> 00:44:25,500
Let's take a look at those pictures.

598
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:26,760
Okay.

599
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,440
Ariana.

600
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:32,120
Yes. You know the lady I got all the
complaints about from the other women

601
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,120
yesterday?

602
00:44:33,620 --> 00:44:34,980
Oh, she's on her way here now.

603
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,220
Oh, inappropriate dress.

604
00:44:38,060 --> 00:44:40,140
Oh, I don't know if termination is
necessary.

605
00:44:41,860 --> 00:44:43,840
Oh, I should wait to see how she's
dressed first?

606
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,360
Okay. Well, I'll do that and I can see
if I could talk some sense into her.

607
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,700
All right. Well, if it's necessary.

608
00:44:53,380 --> 00:44:54,600
All right. Bye.

609
00:44:58,180 --> 00:45:04,320
Hold on there. Our appointment was at 5
today.

610
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,720
It's like 9 .15 in the morning.

611
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,640
Yeah. I just got set straight here.

612
00:45:11,230 --> 00:45:12,209
Did you?

613
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:17,270
Yeah. I guess they wanted you to just
spend the day working on things with me

614
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:20,650
then. That's fine. Let's take a look.

615
00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:23,310
What made you decide to wear that?

616
00:45:24,110 --> 00:45:25,650
You told me to wear this.

617
00:45:26,370 --> 00:45:27,288
Did I?

618
00:45:27,290 --> 00:45:28,290
Yes.

619
00:45:28,910 --> 00:45:33,270
Okay. I thought I was showing you
examples of what was inappropriate to

620
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:34,310
we have miscommunication?

621
00:45:35,650 --> 00:45:39,770
I guess so then because I'm more than
positive.

622
00:45:40,910 --> 00:45:42,370
what you told me to wear.

623
00:45:44,010 --> 00:45:50,290
No, I don't... That's not what I recall,
but, you know,

624
00:45:50,350 --> 00:45:52,770
let's just go ahead and just move on.

625
00:45:54,210 --> 00:45:55,410
Let me take a look at this.

626
00:45:57,390 --> 00:46:00,330
So, do you feel like this outfit might
be sending a particular kind of message?

627
00:46:00,790 --> 00:46:05,590
I mean, yeah, I think, you know, it just
got sent straight here and, like,

628
00:46:05,590 --> 00:46:07,030
everybody was staring at me.

629
00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:11,340
Okay. Well, I'm going to be able to fix
that, okay?

630
00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:17,300
I was the one that counseled you, and
then now, though, now you've got that

631
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:22,680
attention, so when you are, like, our
spokesmodel against sexual harassment,

632
00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:27,000
well, people are going to really pay
attention. It's going to get a reaction,

633
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,640
okay? It's definitely going to get a
reaction.

634
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,920
So we're going to continue with, did you
know what's inappropriate or

635
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,820
appropriate? So what do you feel like
was going on?

636
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,240
Well, I mean, one of the guys actually
touched me.

637
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,940
Oh, show me what he did.

638
00:46:47,180 --> 00:46:48,880
Right there. Yeah, and then.

639
00:46:49,140 --> 00:46:52,240
See, now I would say that he grabbed it.
Did he squeeze like this?

640
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,940
Yes. All right, now I would say that.

641
00:46:55,620 --> 00:46:59,640
And then another person came like really
close to me.

642
00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,220
Like how close? Like that close.

643
00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:04,300
Okay, what do you think he was trying to
do?

644
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:05,520
I mean.

645
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,440
Was he trying to maybe breathe on you?

646
00:47:09,370 --> 00:47:12,110
Mm -hmm. Does that seem like what he
might have been trying to do?

647
00:47:12,490 --> 00:47:15,390
I mean... Or was he trying to just...
Was he trying to touch your hair?

648
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:21,790
No, he didn't touch my hair, but... Did
he put his mouth right in your ear?

649
00:47:24,810 --> 00:47:28,430
No, he just got really close. Were you
facing him when he did it?

650
00:47:28,830 --> 00:47:30,450
Yes. So he was like this.

651
00:47:31,730 --> 00:47:36,570
Do you think he was close enough to
actually kiss you? I mean, yeah, he was

652
00:47:36,570 --> 00:47:37,570
pretty close.

653
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:48,320
Um, I don't think this is, like, good. I
mean, I feel like I'm in a lot of

654
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,320
trouble right now.

655
00:47:49,420 --> 00:47:53,300
Well, I'm human resources, so, I mean,
if you're not... But everybody saw me

656
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:57,580
walk in like this, and I don't... Hmm.

657
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,660
Well, sexual harassment is very serious,
but fraternization is really just

658
00:48:04,660 --> 00:48:11,360
something you get counseled for, whereas
sexual harassment would clearly be

659
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,710
fired for. So definitely we want to make
this a fraternization situation.

660
00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:22,570
So for example, if you were in a
circumstance

661
00:48:22,570 --> 00:48:28,550
where it was a consensual kind of

662
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:32,670
situation, then everything would
probably be okay.

663
00:48:44,270 --> 00:48:48,050
So are you going to fraternize with me,
or are you actually sexually harassing

664
00:48:48,050 --> 00:48:49,050
me by wearing this?

665
00:48:51,910 --> 00:48:53,470
Fraternizing? Oh.

666
00:48:53,830 --> 00:48:58,030
So then things like this are
perfectly... No, no, no, no, no. No,

667
00:48:58,030 --> 00:48:59,330
definitely sexual harassment.

668
00:48:59,610 --> 00:49:05,230
So, well, if you're sexually harassing
me, then I have to write up termination

669
00:49:05,230 --> 00:49:06,230
papers.

670
00:49:06,550 --> 00:49:07,930
That's okay. I mean...

671
00:49:08,550 --> 00:49:10,930
You'll have a clean start with the next
company you start with.

672
00:49:11,170 --> 00:49:15,210
I don't want to lose my job here. I just
want to do a good job here.

673
00:49:15,610 --> 00:49:19,890
So really, I mean, you felt like it was
fraternization, not sexual harassment.

674
00:49:21,550 --> 00:49:23,010
Yeah. Right?

675
00:49:23,370 --> 00:49:27,090
Mm -hmm. I mean, no one dragged you into
this office.

676
00:49:28,810 --> 00:49:29,810
Right, yeah.

677
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:33,970
Right? Mm -hmm. You weren't threatened
to be fired if you didn't wear or did

678
00:49:33,970 --> 00:49:35,070
wear anything in particular.

679
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,200
Yeah. So those were all your own
decisions.

680
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,638
Right, yeah.

681
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:44,460
Right. And I mean, you created
situations with me twice already.

682
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,380
That is true.

683
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:50,440
And I didn't tell you you had to.

684
00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:58,140
Right. So that means that really you're
just carrying a consensual relationship

685
00:49:58,140 --> 00:50:03,860
a little too far or at least being
slightly inappropriate.

686
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,400
sharing it with the outside, right?
Because no one needs to know who's

687
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,840
involvement with who.

688
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Right.

689
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:17,600
Right, so that means that you basically
just decided to enter, you know, enter

690
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:23,100
into a normal, healthy, adult, sexual
relationship.

691
00:50:23,860 --> 00:50:26,080
And we can't be fired for that.

692
00:50:26,380 --> 00:50:28,900
Right, yeah. It probably can't even be
written up. It might just be like an

693
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:30,540
oral, like a counseling.

694
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,698
Mm -hmm.

695
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:37,940
Okay. So if that's the case, then
there's no reason that, you know, things

696
00:50:37,940 --> 00:50:43,140
go a little further.

697
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:52,440
So we don't really have to, like, hold
back. We could pursue a normal, healthy,

698
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:59,600
consensual relationship between two
adults, one with a very good job and one

699
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,720
with a really good future ahead of her.

700
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:03,120
Mm -hmm.

701
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,240
Yeah.

702
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,920
And we already know that, I mean, you're
responsive to me, too.

703
00:51:09,260 --> 00:51:14,900
That could be a short -term thing. Who
knows? Mm -hmm.

704
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:16,540
Yeah.

705
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,360
Mm

706
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:28,920
-hmm.

707
00:51:30,380 --> 00:51:31,380
Mm -hmm.

708
00:51:53,420 --> 00:51:54,420
Okay.

709
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:53,560
You're definitely not going to be in any
trouble.

710
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,880
But I was going to tell him that you
just need counseling after. You know, in

711
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,440
the middle of the day at work, every
day.

712
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:02,120
Yeah.

713
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,460
Maybe you'll take over the human
resources when I get promoted.

714
00:53:26,670 --> 00:53:27,670
Oh my god.

715
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,440
I'm going to tell him that you needed to
be counseled all day, so you'll just

716
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:12,520
spend a day in here with me.

717
01:00:12,820 --> 01:00:16,560
No need to even clean up or even move.
You can pretty much stay like that.

718
01:00:16,740 --> 01:00:21,000
And we'll just talk about the fact that,
you know, since some of the guys are

719
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,020
sending appropriate things, we don't
have to worry about you being lost. So

720
01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:27,980
we're going to just counsel you every
day for the next couple weeks.

721
01:00:28,620 --> 01:00:33,080
Okay. And then I'm going to send you to
talk to the CEO, and he'll see if you

722
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,880
understand the company's stance on
sexual harassment.

723
01:00:36,510 --> 01:00:37,510
Okay.

